Thursday, April 3, 2025

edison multi purpose envelope

cross fading with the mpe
this is a deep cut secret fl trick. probably could be used for comping takes too

fm8 waveforms for sytrus

xenowave posted this in the FL forum its gold

those formant waves are sick you I think you can make them by rm'ing a saw wave in unipolar mode? anyway its wicked because normally you can't fm something that has rm applied in sytrus so it opens up some cool sound design possibilities

Wednesday, April 2, 2025

the 1 reason to use slicer over slicex

fruity slicer has chop on beat, or half beat while slicex just has autochop on 3 transient threshold levels. usually gives you too many or not enough usefull chops.

the whole point of using breaks is to keep those grooves which us why I don’t use transient chops which dump way too much junk midi to wade through in my piano roll.

Usually what I end up doing (if i go that route) is pick out a few choice 1 shots from the garbled mess that autochop spews and instead of quantizing it (which 90% shifts it to the wrong spot and ruins my shuffles) I draw it in.

before doing this its good to label the chops that are significant so you can find them easily in the piano roll.

breaks like the soul pride the timing is all over the place so how I work with it is i place the break at 0 in the timeline and drag the tempo till I see the snare align with the second grid line. Listening with the click on it should be fairly locked in for the rest of the bar up to the next snare and il use that next snare as my next anchor point to judge if i need to speed it up or slow it down for it to lock in. Usually thats enough to get a good loop but soul pride is really all over the place. id go in and just get a few choice shuffles and dip out once I resample them.

In edison you can go into sample settings to establish the tempo metadata in your sample before you save it and in render settings you use "save as acidized loop" to include the tempo in the .wav. Its also good practise to include it in the name of your file when you render it out.

The jungle warfare sample cds are sick but also kind of suck (like many sample cds). the problem is the sequenced loops try too hard to be original. they moved all the hits around to be uniquely choppy in a way that sounds bad for music. they sound good as loops stand alone but not as a supporting element in music. usually too busy and no backbeat. They are off kilter to sound jungley but they don’t hold up to be looped through an entire track because they are too busy. Its a whole lot of work to do un do it which is why its better to just use the original breaks imo. (it is inspiring to hear them though).

one of the best ways to chop that is surprisingly difficult to do in fl version 10 is to split a sample into even slices and throw it across your pads mpc style.
fruity slicer can do it if your tempo data is correct (you need to massage the sample into the grid and resample with edison on play mode sometimes to get the loops right first).

Slicex came in as the predecessor and I thought was better in every way until i revisited for that one purpose. the later versions of fl have edison/slicex scripts in the forum that finally let you chop to an even number of slices but my weird linux wine setup only lets me run version 10 (i got the last 32 but version v20 running once and 24 but it stopped launching for some reason and I gave up because 10 ran better for most things like 32 plugins wouldn't run in v24)

I like to keep my sessions short and focused. Im just going to fix my breaks and turn off the computer and go outside. my goal was to fix the soul pride break

  • figure out the tempo for the main backbeat
  • the shuffles
  • try different time stretch algo
  • half / double tempo sequence

resample all those in edison and export 1 wav with the tempo info

sytrus fx output demystified

Like many of the knobs in sytrus, the reverb volume slider is bipolar so the middle point is actually zero. I saw in the manual that you can route the fx to their own channel in the mixer but it wasn't working for me thats why. Each time I thought I switched it off I actually just inverted the phase.